Shadowhelo Consider what you said with it did a nose dive and you moved the CG forward to make more weight in the nose, of course it would do the same thing. A \"Xiaomi Yi camera fitted to a custom brushless gimbal on the nose\" would add lots of nose weight to a plane that is really meant for a mobius, you should have thought of this, it would affect the CG and you should have brought the weight back not forwards.....

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Shadowhelo Your blaming the CG stickers of the plane when this is clearly user error. you stuck 2 2200's and one 850 mah along with a xiaomi Yi and a gimbal on the front of a plane and did not expect it to affect the CG ? of course its gonna take a nose dive with that much equipment on the front without being properly calibrated for that weight.Fail...

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chris After some testing, i was in the wrong so my apologies. This plane flies best with CG at the servo wires, A little aft of the CG stickers, although it can still fly nose heavy with the CG 10mm in front of the CG stickers. When i had that setup it was heavy but still flyable as ive put on dead weight to match what was on and it flies ok. As for my crash ive put it down to a stall and some torque roll. I threw it on too much of an angle.

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chris As for the brushless gimbal and Xiaomi Yi i wanted to try something different, Mobius is boring. I have another Talon on the way, will build it lighter with a smaller motor and less battery Mah

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khairilniwan If the plane is heavy, you need speed to take off to avoid stall. Two of my attempt when I take off almost crash because of stall and only launch at 50% throttle. When I'm using full throttle this plane flew well.

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